Functionally a First Date
In conversation with Worrystone on her debut EP, Supermover
Ali Allocco (aka Worrystone) and I matched on Hinge roughly ten months ago.
We met for the first time on Monday to discuss her debut EP, cosmic alignment, and karaoke.
Moira: Okay, so, your EP comes out on Wednesday
Worrystone: Yeah, I can’t believe it.
Moira: Yeah, so, um- the last time you released music was 2021- what’s with the hiatus?
Worrystone: So, really it’s like- it wasn’t on purpose at all.
MO: Mhm.
WS: Um, I think it was a lot easier to put out music in 2021 because nothing was going on-
MO: Yeah.
WS: Like, I wrote most of my songs in 2020. Not the ones that just came out, but the ones that came out in 2021, and I had actually had a full EP at that point-
MO: Oh.
WS: And Bikes At Sunset and Sheila were like the only two that kind of saw the light of day off of that.
MO: Okay
WS: And I feel like I just- I kind of took a long break- just because I wasn’t really feeling the songs anymore. And also, like- I work with Justin, who’s my best friend, roommate, producer- all of it. Um, and he owns a recording studio, so, like, obviously owning your own business is really daunting and a lot of work. So there’s only so much time that Justin can put into the project as well.
MO: Yeah.
WS: So a lot of time was kind of passing between those songs coming out, and it was just like- we both were kind of feeling like- I don’t really want these other ones to come out, like, I feel like things are changing, I’m writing better songs, and we need to focus on the new stuff. And those still haven’t seen the light of day. I don’t know if they ever will- maybe, like, we’ll rework one or two of them or something.
MO: Yeah, yeah- that’s fair.
WS: Yeah.
MO: Okay, so-
WS: So that was convoluted, but-
MO: No no no that makes sense. Um- how many songs are on Supermover?
WS: It’s five songs.
MO: Okay.
WS: So three of them have already come out, which was like, a pretty deliberate choice. Cause I feel like people don’t really have the attention span anymore for stuff.
MO: Yeah. [laughs]
WS: Unless you’re just like Hey! I’m over here! Hey, I’m right here! Guys! Listen! Look! So that’s why I was like- I just need to like rapid-fire do this, and these songs were actually- we started working on them like two years ago- so they’re really old. They’ve been kind of done and in this state for a year or two.
MO: Really?
WS: Yeah.
MO: That’s crazy.
WS: I know- and I almost did the same thing with this EP even where I was like- should I still put it out?
MO: Yeah.
WS: Cause we just have this habit of- so much time goes by, and it’s like wait, but I could do something better. But we are really proud of these songs, and I was like it would be so sad for them to never see the light of day.
MO: Yeah.
WS: Cause I didn’t even start making music until 2019? 2020? 2019, 2020, I couldn’t even, like, play an instrument.
MO: Really? Wait, that's crazy. How did that happen?
WS: Well, so, like- I was dating this guy, and then [laughs] we broke up, and he had a band, and I was really bitter because when we broke up I found lyrics in his room that were like- it was some shit like “At first it was nothing but love. Now it’s nothing at all” and I’m like-
MO: Fuck. [laughs]
WS: Like, is this fucking play about us?
MO: No, literally. [laughs]
WS: I was like what the hell? So I was so mad and was like- you don’t love me… And he was like uhhhh, yeah, that is about you. [laughs]
MO: That’s crazy.
WS: So I was super tormented and bitter about that- so I started to have my crazy girl summer, as one does-
MO: Yeah.
WS: Where I was just hanging out with people allll the time. And I started to hang out with my friends Justin and our other friend, like, all the time. And they owned the studio together at the time. And I was there one day and my friend was like “Somebody teach me how to play Freaking Out The Neighborhood by Mac DeMarco on the guitar.”
MO: Yeah.
WS: So my one friend starts teaching him, and I’m like- Gimme that guitar. I can do that. I can do that shit. So they give me the guitar, and I was kind of just motivated by the fact that like- well, like, this asshole can play music- why the fuck can’t I play music, you know?
MO: Yeah, yeah.
WO: And I always loved music. I was always around the music scene and stuff, and I always wanted to play guitar, so it was just, like, a good time to learn. And I started to learn pretty fast. I only played Freaking Out The Neighborhood for like- two, three months I think. [laughs] That was the only song I played until I nailed it.
MO: [laughs] That’s funny, yeah.
WS: And then I was like- I could, like, write a song. And so I wrote my first song, Waking World.
MO: Okay, okay.
WS: And then I recorded that with Justin. Um, which, like, I actually won the studio time in a giveaway, even though we were kind of friends [laughs]. But after that I was kind of like, I’m gonna keep writing songs. And he was like, These are good, let’s work on them together, and it’ll be our project.
MO: That’s so cool.
WS: And so that’s how that happened.
MO: That’s really cool. I- yeah, I expected like a- I feel like the normal thing is like, Oh I’ve been doing this since I was little-
WS: No, I wish.
MO: You didn’t play any instruments?
WS: No- I always wished I had like an embarrassing middle school band or something-
MO: [laughs]
WS: Cause in a way this feels like that-
MO: The embarrassing middle school band, yeah. Yeah, no, I get that. I only started writing in this past year, and I’m like, fuck… like-
WS: It’s like why didn’t I just do this sooner so that I could already have the embarrassing past things that I worked on that it’s like Oh, well that was so dumb, you know?
MO: Yeah, no, I get that.
WS: And this is that. Like, I’m there right now.
MO: Does it feel very raw?
WS: Yeah, it definitely does. I think when I- the first EP that never saw the light of day, I was really afraid to, like, be specific about things. Like, I’d write the most vague shit ever cause I’d be like, I don’t want anyone to know what this is about. When really they were all songs about that guy.
MO: [laughs]
WS: And [laughs] it’s like, everybody knows what it’s about. You know what I mean?
MO: That’s so funny. Yeah.
WS: Cause who’s listening? Like, my friends. So, whatever- I was like, everybody knows who this is about. And then during the pandemic, when I was kind of just alone, I was like Okay, it’s time to be real. [laughs]
MO: Yeah, yeah.
WS: And so, yeah, I just kind of got real and then I started dating someone else, and that’s kind of when, like, everything halted. I released Sheila and I started dating this person, and I just stopped doing music, cause I was in, like, that state. And I was just like, oh, well this is all I can do now, you know? [laughs]
MO: Yeah. [laughs]
WS: So, yeah, I got stuck there-
MO: That’s fair.
WS: And after that relationship is when I wrote a lot of these songs.
MO: Okay, yeah- that’s what I was gonna ask. Are they- are any of these new songs about that relationship?
WS: Yeah. So, Lilacs and Soft Light, Persephone, and Rabbit Song.
MO: So, all but Rachel?
WS: All but Rachel. But what is so interesting, um, is they’re all about the theme of, like, moving.
MO: Mhm.
WS; And Justin and I moved in the process of putting it out and stuff. Cause we lived in New Jersey, and I wanted to move to Philly. And Justin was like Maybe it’s time for the next chapter of the studio- like, let’s try to do it. And so, we moved last February… 2023- was that last year? Yeah, that was last year.
MO: Indeed it was. [laughs]
WS: Yeah, so we moved here last February, and the EP was basically done at this point, but for a whole year we just didn’t really do anything with it. And I also just felt really stuck. Like, I wasn’t writing a whole lot of new songs. Justin was trying to get the studio on its feet. But in the back of my mind I was feeling so bad because I was like, I need to do this. I need to put this out, and all these songs were just sitting there. I knew they were good, but I guess that kind of all ties into it too because it was like- Rachel is a song about my best friend moving when I was just a little kid, and Soft Light is a song about the person I dated moving across the country. And the other songs are just like- I don’t know, it’s weird how themes pop up when it’s not even intentional.
MO: Yeah, yeah. Without you realizing- I love when that happens. I’m like uh, yeah, I meant to do that. And, like, maybe you did.
WS: Yeah, like subconsciously it’s just what is going on in your head. Like, all the songs talk about flowers- all of them talk about that. A lot of them are, like, folk or mythology-related. Like, Rabbit Song is about a folk story that that person I dated told me about, where, uh- I’m probably gonna explain it wrong, so you can fact check this-
MO: [laughs] Okay, I will.
WS: [laughs] I need to be fact checked. Um, but it’s- there’s this beggar in the woods, and a rabbit comes along and sees that he’s starving, and the rabbit’s like You can eat me. Like, you’re gonna die; you need to eat something. You can just eat me. And the beggar is actually, like, a wizard or something. [laughs]
MO: Naturally.
WS: Yeah, and he’s like That is so noble- I’m gonna eat you, but I’m gonna commemorate you on the moon. And so when you look up at the moon you’ll see the silhouette of a rabbit.
MO: Okay.
WS: So I wrote that song based off of that. And then I have another song on the EP called Persephone, which, like, everybody knows Persephone. [laughs]
MO: Yeah. [laughs]
WS: Um, but that was after the relationship, where I was like, oh, this guy was kind of evil, I think. [laughs]
MO: Yeah. [laughs] It happens. Too often, I think. [laughs]
WS: Yeah, and so I kind of drew parallels from the story of Persephone for that one. And, yeah, it’s just interesting how everything comes together. And it’s a lot about childhood too, in a way. Like, Lilacs draws from my childhood- I grew up around a lot of flowers. My grandma had lilac bushes, so there’s the nostalgia of that and why lilacs are meaningful. And then there’s the song Rachel which I literally wrote in 2004. [laughs] Um, and Rabbit Song is just a kind of childish song. I think it’s kind of like a children’s sing-along song.
MO: Okay, cool. That’s cool. Um, are you still in contact with Rachel?
WS: No, actually.
MO: Oh- so she doesn’t know about the song?
WS: I- she might. It’s hard to say. So, um, I kind of fell out of touch with her. We talked on my family’s home phone once she moved. I remember that. We talked maybe once or twice. Her mom was actually- I did play piano as a kid, but just for a minute, so I didn’t retain any of it. But her mom was my piano teacher. So when Rachel moved, I also stopped learning piano, which kind of ruined my life.
MO: Yeah, literally. [laughs]
WS: But she lived just two houses down the street from me, so it was really sad when she moved cause I was just like, oh my god- my best friend is leaving me. And she was a year older than me too. And- I do think a while ago we may have connected on Instagram, but I definitely purged my Instagram at one point, and I don’t know if she survived, to be honest. [laughs] And she is a Mormon.
MO: No way. No way.
WS: Yeah. And she’s married and like, I don’t really know where she is.
MO: That’s funny. Wow, your paths have really diverged.
WS: Yeah, I remember as a kid, she was one of those kids who wasn’t allowed to watch Spongebob. And so I would, like, recite episodes of Spongebob to her.
MO: You could’ve saved her. If she didn’t move.
WS: Literally. Like, I tried. And I remember another time- like, as a kid obviously you don’t realize these things- like you don’t think it’s so weird, since everything’s weird and new, but I remember I was in the car with her whole family one time, and me and Rachel were in the very back seat talking, and I said Oh my god, and her dad slammed on the brakes and turned around and was like Who said that?
MO: Oh my god. [laughs]
WS: And Rachel was like It was Ali, but she didn’t know! And she starts trying to explain for me, and I was like I’m so sorry, and he goes NEVER take the lord’s name in vain [laughs], and I was so scared.
MO: That’s so funny.
WS: Yeah- these are the major memories I have of her, but that’s so funny. Apparently she had a pretty big impact on me.
MO: Yeah, I was gonna ask: why did you choose that diary entry? Why that one to put to song?
WS: So, I found this journal during the pandemic, and I could tell that I had written it as a song. And I kind of came back to the memory of writing it because in it I’m literally writing “Oh yeah”. [laughs] And I thought that’s how you wrote a song- you just had to add the oh yeah’s. And it, like, worked, so I jokingly recorded me playing it over some chords, which I think ended up being the chords we used, and I was like Oh my god, look, this is a song I wrote when I was six or something. And Justin was like, We should make it a real song.
MO: Yeah. [laughs]
WS: And I was like, Okay, like I guess I’m down. And I kind of didn’t see the vision at first, but then Justin put it together in a way that I was like Okay, this is fun; I like this.
MO: Yeah, that’s sick. That’s really cool. Um, do you have a favorite off of Supermover?
WS: Definitely Soft Light.
MO: Okay.
WS: Soft Light’s always been my favorite, and it’s definitely being received the best too, which is really cool. It’s really affirming when I’m like okay I really like this one, and then everyone else really likes it too.
MO: Yeah, definitely.
WS: And I had a similar feeling about Bikes At Sunset, which [pauses] not to be all woo-woo, but I have a journal entry from before I released Bikes At Sunset where I was like: people are gonna love Bikes At Sunset, it’s gonna be so successful, it’s gonna be so well-received. And then it has something like 46,000 streams now, which is so crazy. And it’s all because it got on a Spotify playlist. But still, that was crazy.
MO: Yeah. Yeah, you knew.
WS: Yeah, I knew. And similarly I have a journal entry where I’m like, people are gonna love Soft Light. It’s the best one.
MO: Yeah.
WS: So I just need to write it down. [laughs]
MO: Yeah, no, you literally do. Yeah. [laughs] Yeah, that’s cool. How did you come up with Supermover?
WS: Um, so, if you look- some U-Haul trucks are called Supermovers.
MO: Okay. Really? I didn’t know that.
WS: Yeah, it says it on there: Supermover. And I remember I was driving one day and saw a U-Haul truck that said Supermover, and I was like, that’s sick. Like, that would be an awesome band name. And then I was like, wait- I can just call the EP that. Which works with the theme of moving.
MO: Yeah, definitely.
WS: And then when I was moving- I had picked the name before that, and I got a Supermover. Like, I didn’t even know it was gonna be that one, and I was like, what the hell?
MO: Did it feel very cosmically aligned at that point?
WS: Mhm. So many things do. I love when there’s foreshadowing in life. Like, who’s writing this shit?
MO: I know. I’m like, sometimes- sometimes you guys hate me. Sometimes you really got me.
WS: Yeah like sometimes you make me run down the street drunk and break two bones.
MO: [laughs] And break two bones, yeah, but it’s fine- I’m sure, like, something great will come of it. That’s literally all I can tell myself. [laughs] Um- okay, so- Worrystone. What inspired that name?
WS: So, I feel like I kind of just picked it one day. I had been throwing around a bunch of names, but ever since I was a little kid, I always had worry stones. And I was, like, a really anxious kid. Especially about being separated from my mom. I remember the first day of first grade, which was the year I wrote about-
MO: Rachel, yeah.
WS: I remember I was just crying in class and my teacher was like Heyyy, and I was like I miss my mom! And my mom would always give me worry stones. She would be like, Just rub your worry stone- it’s okay. And there’s a journal entry, actually, at the beginning of that journal where I wrote “Today is the first day of school. I feel shy.”
MO: Awww.
WS: Followed by a picture of me that I drew, where I’m frowning. [laughs] I’ll have to send you it when I get home.
MO: [laughs] Yeah, please do. That’s so cute. Do you still have any worry stones?
WS: Mhm. I have one from when I was really young that’s a heart-shaped one, and it’s broken, actually. It’s broken in half, and I’m pretty sure it’s from me going ham on it.
MO: [laughs]
WS: But we, like, glued it back together. Like, I’ve just always been like this.
MO: Like reeeally fucking high-strung. That’s funny.
WS: Literally. [laughs] Yeah, I still have that one and then a couple others from when I was a kid. My mom would always just pick them up, and then I bought one on vacation recently. And I bought Justin one when I was on vacation cause I was like, you’re Worrystone too.
MO: That’s so cute. Um, yeah, I- Justin’s your roommate. Is that ever- I don’t know, you guys spend a lot of time together, I’m assuming. Is it ever weird living with your, like, business partner?
WS: Yeah. Like, yes and no. Mostly no, I would say, honestly.
MO: Okay.
WS: Because we’ve always been friends first. And I’ve actually known Justin since I was fourteen, but we weren’t always that close.
MO: Oh, wow. Did you grow up close to each other?
WS: We grew up in close-by towns, but I knew him kind of through the music scene because I used to be really into band photography. So I would take pictures of bands that Justin was in, and I’d always be going to shows, so we kind of crossed paths. But we were never really close until probably 2020, when I recorded my song Waking World- we were still not even that close, and I was like, this is really intimidating. Like, I’ve never done this before, and Justin and I aren’t super tight- like, we’re pretty friendly, but we aren’t best friends by any means. And I’m like, baring it all and trying to figure it out. I remember I was so afraid to sing- like, nobody fucking look at me.
MO: No, that’s so vulnerable.
WS: Yeah, it was a whole thing. And then we kind of became close by like- through 2020, through the pandemic without actually being physically close by- I started sending Justin songs and working on stuff remotely. And he was like These are really good; let’s keep working on them. And then we just started hanging out all the time and working on music, and I think the music is really what made us have such closeness, which is really nice. And it’s still like that. Justin and I just get along so well. We’re always interested in the same stupid shit. Um, we both love my cat Kelly. [laughs] She’s a great bonding point. And I could see how it could be a lot, being so wrapped up with the person you’re living with, but we’re so lucky in that regard.
MO: Yeah, that’s awesome.
WS: And we want to be doing all this stuff together because we just get it, and we’re just like, locked in, you know?
MO: Yeah, that’s great. In terms of influences- any from when you were younger? Any now?
WS: I always struggle with that, cause it’s like- I feel like I’m always influenced by whatever I’m listening to at that time. And I think when I first first started, I was really influenced by bedroom pop because that’s what was going on.
MO: Yeah. It was huge then.
WS: Yeah, like Clairo, Soccer Mommy, Snail Mail. I was like, this is so cool- like, look at all these girls making music- this is awesome. And that was just another thing where I thought okay, maybe I can really do this, you know? But I like a lot of different stuff in general. Like, I love early 2000’s music. Feel-good stuff. I call it In The Car On The Way To The Grocery Store With Your Mom Music. Like, Sheryl Crow, Shania Twain, John Mayer. [laughs]
MO: John Mayer in the car on the way to the grocery store- yeah, that’s so good.
WS: It just scratches something. So I love that, and I also love some soft rock or, like, yacht rock from the ‘70s. And just what everybody else loves now. Like, I love the new Clairo record.
MO: It’s so good.
WS: It’s so awesome.
MO: So good. What’s your favorite from there?
WS: Ugh- that’s hard. Um, but I think Soft Da- Soft Dance. Hello? Hello? [laughs] Yeah, probably Soft Light uhhhh.
MO: [laughs] Yeah, I’d have to say uhhhhh.
WS: [laughs] Slow Dance. Slow Dance is probably my fave. That and Nomad.
MO: Oh my god, yeah.
WS: She ate with that.
MO: Yeah, Slow Dance goes crazy. Incredible song.
WS: Yeah, I was just on vacation, and that was all I was listening to. I was just, like, on a raft in the pool.
MO: As it’s mentioned to be listened to.
WS: Literally. I was just absorbing that.
MO: As you should. So, I guess, what are your aspirations for continuing to make music?
WS: I definitely plan to continue. I have been writing new songs, so I have a bunch of new songs ready to go, but Justin and I haven’t recorded anything new yet. And I’m really looking forward to that because we’ve actually never recorded a song together in the new studio, despite it being there for, like, a year. So that should be really interesting and a fun experience for us. But, yeah, I definitely like- and I feel like this is what always happens, but I definitely like what I’m writing now the best. So I’m definitely excited about that. But I don’t really have any crazy aspirations. Like, right now, short-term goal: I really wanna play a show.
MO: Yeah.
WS: And I do have a band together now. We haven’t practiced yet, but that’s gonna happen in August.
MO: Okay, sick.
WS: So that’s really exciting. But, like, I used to actually have- well, and maybe I still have it and it’s gonna slap me in the face, but I used to have crippling stage fright. And the idea of ever playing a show… I was like, that’s just something I can’t do. Can’t do that one, you know. And especially when Bikes At Sunset popped off, I was like Oh my god… they’re gonna want me to play arenas! [laughs] Like, I thought crazy things were happening to me, and I was, like, so scared.
MO: [laughs] No that’s so fair. Like, I’m gonna have to say no when they inevitably ask me.
WS: Like when they ask me to play Madison Square Garden, WHAT am I gonna say? [laughs]
MO: When you’re at the Sphere in Vegas and you’re like okay I can’t do it! [laughs]
WS: No, literally. And I was just like oh god, people are looking at me. This is horrible! But then I think what changed that- well, actually, I had kind of like a really traumatic experience where I did a vocal school, which I think was actually lowkey kind of a gimmicky thing, and I just got scammed by it.
MO: Okay. [laughs]
WS: But they had a recital, and I did this recital. And I was so ready- I had rehearsed my songs a bunch of times. I was singing, um, Savior Complex by Phoebe Bridgers and Masterpiece by Big Thief.
MO: Okay… I feel like that’s a toughie.
WS: It is a toughie. I don’t know what that was. I thought I was ready for Madison Square Garden.
MO: [laughs]
WS: [laughs] So I was really scared, but I was like, whatever- I’ll do this recital, and it’ll be a great chance for me to perform in front of people. It’s low stakes. Whatever. I get there; I’m feeling so good. And it’s like, a bunch of old people who go to this signing school, I’m realizing. And this is the point where I’m like… Have I been scammed? [laughs] Cause it’s, like, retirees and me.
MO: That’s so funny.
WS: And I’m like, well, at least I have nothing to worry about. There’s no need to be nervous when I get up there and sing, right? So I get up there, and it just, like, overtakes me.
MO: Ugh.
WS: I started having the craziest, like, physical reaction to being in front of these people. My heart is racing, I’m short of breath, my voice is shaky. I literally feel like I’m, like, a chunk of meat and a bunch of tigers are watching me. And then as I’m singing, the ice cream truck goes by, and then there are a bunch of sirens as well. [laughs] And it was just the craziest thing ever.
MO: [laughs] Just like hell, yeah.
WS: And my vocal teacher’s in the back trying to encourage me, which is, like, making it worse because then I know I’m fucking up.
MO: Yeah, it’s like when you get slow clapped in in a race. Like, fuck- just don’t acknowledge it.
WS: And there was one girl in the crowd too who, when I said I was gonna be singing Savior Complex, was like Whooo! And I was like no! Someone knows this song! She expects it to be good! Fuck!
MO: [laughs] Noo.
WS: After that I started googling remedies for stage fright, and I see beta blockers come up. Which, then- I don’t realize this is a prescribed drug, so I go to Walgreens, go up to an employee, and I’m like You guys have beta blockers? And they’re like You need a prescription for that. [laughs] So I’m just like I’m fucked, I’m never gonna be able to perform, what am I gonna do? And then I moved here, and I started to just love singing karaoke so much.
MO: Yeah, yeah. [laughs]
WS: I’m always at karaoke, as you know. [laughs] I try to go almost every Wednesday to Milkboy.
MO: Do you feel like that’s helped?
WS: It has helped tremendously.
MO: Okay, that’s awesome. That’s actually- that’s such a good solution.
WS: It really has helped because, like, nobody expects you to be good when you’re singing karaoke. And then if you are, people are very complimentary, generally. So I was like, okay. Like, this is awesome. I could do this, maybe. And I feel like that really helped me. That and just jamming songs with Justin, just us together playing the songs. But, yeah, it’s been a journey.
MO: Yeah, dude. Oh my god.
WS: So it’ll be interesting to see what happens when I actually go to play a show and I’m in front of all these people. But I think it’s gonna be different with a band and stuff too.
MO: Yeah, definitely. Yeah, having people behind you, I feel like will help a lot. Are there any venues in Philly you’d, like, love to play?
WS: Oh my gosh, yeah. Like, I feel like I’ve been to every venue at this point. And obviously, on the bigger end of things, I’d love to play, like, The Fillmore or The Foundry or something like that. I think that’d be really cool. But, like, smaller-wise, I love Ortlieb’s. I think Ortlieb’s is so cool with their little stage and stuff. Um, I also really like PhilaMOCA. Um, really wherever will take me. [laughs] Anywhere with a little stage they’ll let me stand on.
MO: [laughs] I’ll stand there. I’ll stand there and sing. Um, okay- is there anything specific we haven’t talked about that you wanted to add?
WS: Mm, I’m trying to think. [pauses] Oh, something really fun about Rabbit Song is, at the end, I had a bunch of my friends come in and we all sang the end together-
MO: Oh, that’s cute.
WS: Which is so fun, and I really like that. And I think one more thing worth mentioning was just how troublesome it was to even put stuff out.
MO: Yeah. Yeah, I remember you tweeted about that.
WS: Yeah, literally. I have a therapist, Gail, who is a great woman.
MO: Gail? Is she old?
WS: Yeah, she’s, like, middle-aged, and she’s awesome. Um, but I’ve been seeing her for three years or so now, so she’s a day-oner. She knows what’s up. And when I moved, I was so aspirational about music. And then this year went by, and winter hit, and I have- I have S.A.D., if you’re familiar.
MO: Oh, I’m familiar. [laughs] I’m intimately familiar.
WS: Yeah- such a sick name for what it is as well. Like, who the fuck called it SAD?
MO: It’s just like, why would you add insult to injury? It’s already so bad.
WS: Yeah, like, I have SAD. C’mon. But, yeah, so- winter hit, and I was just feeling so bad about myself. And I didn’t want to do anything, and I was also feeling so out of touch with myself because for so long I’ve identified as a creative person. Like, I’m an artist, I’m a musician. And it still feels weird to be like I’m a musician. But I was just like, I can’t even call myself these things because I’m not doing anything.
MO: Mhm.
WS: And, like, I have these songs, but I’m not putting them out. I haven’t done anything, and I was expressing this to her a few months ago, and she was like, Let’s put out a timeline of when you’ll put out your songs, and you’ll bring it to Justin, and say can we do this, and see if you can do it. So she helped me write up a list of everything I had to do for each release and what days they had to come out and everything.
MO: That’s awesome.
WS: Yeah, she’s like my manager. [laughs] And so we sat there and we came up with the dates and everything, and I brought them to Justin and he was like Yeah let’s do it.
Supermover is out now on Spotify and Apple Music. You can find Ali on Instagram at @yourfriendali / @worrystonee and X at @worrystonee.
Justin’s studio, Mt. Moon Recording, can be found on Instagram at @mtmoonrecording and online at www.mtmoonrecording.com